tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post6265794829658613400..comments2024-03-11T13:52:07.302-07:00Comments on Cynthia Chapman Willis' BLOG: Save the What? When?Cynthia Chapman Willishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12408985785062180536noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-30149515658091174252023-08-27T16:39:29.333-07:002023-08-27T16:39:29.333-07:00Bermuda yurtdışı kargo
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There is also a Save the Cat ...Good point, Susan. <br /><br />There is also a Save the Cat website, Nutschell. It's quite the popular book.Cynthia Chapman Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12408985785062180536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-48560510430174689962011-10-18T10:19:06.017-07:002011-10-18T10:19:06.017-07:00I really have to get myself a copy of this book! I...I really have to get myself a copy of this book! I think the main character certainly has to be likeable for some reason early on--whether its by saving the cat early on, or showing signs that he/she will save the cat later on. :D<br /><br />nutschell<br />www.thewritingnut.comnutschellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10967710710805174781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-54172517563640959072011-10-18T07:22:09.964-07:002011-10-18T07:22:09.964-07:00I absolutely loved Save the Cat! Didn't he als...I absolutely loved Save the Cat! Didn't he also say that the mc doesn't necessarily have to do something likable, but can also be made likable by being interesting or funny, like John Travolta in Pulp Fiction? So I think that while a Save the Cat scene is great, we can be drawn to the character in other ways as well.Susan Fieldshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02433408456603462774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-28771018986310243662011-10-18T06:39:36.951-07:002011-10-18T06:39:36.951-07:00Thanks, Christy! You make wonderful points. I real...Thanks, Christy! You make wonderful points. I really like what you wrote about how a character's positive traits can be shown in subtle ways.Cynthia Chapman Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12408985785062180536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-84073930672842774032011-10-17T08:50:15.460-07:002011-10-17T08:50:15.460-07:00Great post! I'm enjoying reading the comments...Great post! I'm enjoying reading the comments. I think it helps when you see the likabililty of a character. Like Katniss Everdeen. She's a tough character but the way she takes care of her sister . . . makes her very likable. <br /><br />But, there are exceptions to every rule. I think likability can be shown in many ways. It doesn't have to be earth shattering. Sometimes I like a character simply based on their humor or perspective on life.C.R. Evershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09034891037873664976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-87756622876632020672011-10-15T07:40:19.743-07:002011-10-15T07:40:19.743-07:00Thanks, Maeve! And you make such a good point abou...Thanks, Maeve! And you make such a good point about how stories should reflect the complex characters in our world. Also, great example of a character who goes from unlikable to likable. <br /><br />That's a great point, too, Peggy. The save the cat moment doesn't have to be immense and Earth shattering. Maybe it's just a hint of some goodness deep inside a character.Cynthia Chapman Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12408985785062180536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-35629848192077634182011-10-14T05:59:15.695-07:002011-10-14T05:59:15.695-07:00I kind of do like the characters that I'm supp...I kind of do like the characters that I'm supposed to be rooting for have a save the cat moment. It doesn't have to be anything big. I can just be a very small hint. It just lets me know that there is greatness inside them somewhere, and through their character arc, I'm going to see some more of it.Peggy Eddlemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10241451940725996650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-40812195336037988932011-10-13T18:31:55.262-07:002011-10-13T18:31:55.262-07:00I like the saving graces to come later, it gives a...I like the saving graces to come later, it gives a reader hope that people can change. After all, the world is full of different and complex individuals, shouldn't they be in our stories, as well? <br /><br />I think of Jack Nicholson in "As Good As It Gets", too! You wanted to hate him and then you wind up liking him. <br /><br />Your post is just like a good book. It gets you interested, keeps you interested and looking forward to the next one!Maeve Frazierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00788413883600771145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-21895608556724941852011-10-13T13:03:42.612-07:002011-10-13T13:03:42.612-07:00I think the skill of the writer is key, Carol. So ...I think the skill of the writer is key, Carol. So tough to pull of an unlikable character. <br /><br />That is interesting, Ashley. And now I'm curious about your MC. : ) <br /><br />I agree, Angela. Thanks for the book recommendation. I also love STORY: Substance, Structure, Style, and the Principals of Screenwriting by Robert McKee.<br /><br />Nah, you're not a weird reader, Karen. I think there can be great rewards for sticking with a unlikable character. Sometimes, though, I get too impatient with them.Cynthia Chapman Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12408985785062180536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-27231692817567934782011-10-13T09:56:01.615-07:002011-10-13T09:56:01.615-07:00Ha. Ebenzer was really crusty. Maybe I'm a wei...Ha. Ebenzer was really crusty. Maybe I'm a weird reader but I'll stick with an unlikeable character because they have to be crusty for a reason and I want to know why.<br /><br />But I always loved the reason character save cats --- the reasoning always shows something deeper about the character.Karen Stronghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08697785820907711723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-27065405433408479972011-10-13T09:14:33.950-07:002011-10-13T09:14:33.950-07:00This is a great example. I think it's definite...This is a great example. I think it's definitely challenging using an unlikeable hero, but can be done with great success when it's feels authentic. <br /><br />Now that you've read Save the Cat, you'll have to try Writing Screenplays that Sell (Hauge). I tell you, the screenwriting books are a gold mine for writers. :)<br /><br />Angela @ The Bookshelf MuseAngela Ackermanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01808259088625142389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-8347611440919021672011-10-13T08:45:09.234-07:002011-10-13T08:45:09.234-07:00Well...my main character doesn't save anyone, ...Well...my main character doesn't save anyone, really. It's everyone else doing stuff...but peeps still like him! Interesting.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00503400522084515874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-48134527523253600162011-10-13T06:41:48.326-07:002011-10-13T06:41:48.326-07:00I think it depends on the story. And the skill of ...I think it depends on the story. And the skill of the writer.Carol Kilgorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15168273312704732896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-83517631288289704892011-10-13T05:51:38.504-07:002011-10-13T05:51:38.504-07:00Two great examples, Carol. Thanks!
Only saving &q...Two great examples, Carol. Thanks!<br /><br />Only saving "minor kittens" until the end--I love that, Jolene. Great point.<br /><br />The genre makes the difference. Interesting, Lynda. <br /><br />I agree, Writing Nut: Not being sure about the character does add suspense and make the reader think more about that character. <br /><br />Stina, A Christmas Carol is still one of my favorite reads. <br /><br />Good point, Lydia. The more to look forward to, the better.<br /><br />Thanks for the great comments, everyone!Cynthia Chapman Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12408985785062180536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-6155996108858694672011-10-12T20:45:45.526-07:002011-10-12T20:45:45.526-07:00I like the saving to happen a wee bit later. Somet...I like the saving to happen a wee bit later. Something to look forward to!Lydia Kanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00484415427764822386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-67839243210660496632011-10-12T16:14:39.593-07:002011-10-12T16:14:39.593-07:00I love STC and I cried at the end of Christmas Car...I love STC and I cried at the end of Christmas Carol.<br /><br />I'm with Lynda. It really depends on the book (and genre).Stinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11415189347501942340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-35319399840368299762011-10-12T16:13:55.052-07:002011-10-12T16:13:55.052-07:00You know... I think it depends on the story... som...You know... I think it depends on the story... sometimes I enjoy waiting to decide if the character is good or bad.. it makes for some good suspense and analyzing!WritingNuthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16326756274887055685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-52509669020477656162011-10-12T14:56:57.916-07:002011-10-12T14:56:57.916-07:00I think in certain genres yes the cat must be save...I think in certain genres yes the cat must be saved early. In others it can take some time.Lynda R Young as Elle Cardyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09975442291393246148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-88347442180819186192011-10-12T12:04:15.941-07:002011-10-12T12:04:15.941-07:00I LOVE books with characters that I'm not sure...I LOVE books with characters that I'm not sure if I like. <br />Grounding Quinn was an example of that. The main girl, Quinn, was snarky, not always nice, but I cared about her, and HAD to know what happened.<br /><br />She only saved very minor kittens until the end. I think it's a WAY cool talent for someone to have.Jolene Perryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14809468564016928636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-72174115661915836362011-10-12T11:16:23.204-07:002011-10-12T11:16:23.204-07:00Great point! (and yes--I have to GET this book) It...Great point! (and yes--I have to GET this book) It's a tricky thing...you want the reader to identify and sympathize with the main character, but it's not always possible or advisable to have that save-the-cat moment in the first chapter (or early on). I think it sorta depends on the writer, and it also depends on the story and the character. <br /><br />Jack Nicholson in "As Good As It Gets" is a thoroughly bad/annoying character until nearer the end--as is Bill Murray in "Groundhog's Day." And yet they are really intriguing characters!Carol Riggshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14092209912983783974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-26558221847113584082011-10-12T10:20:39.495-07:002011-10-12T10:20:39.495-07:00Interesting, J.L. Reading all the different opinio...Interesting, J.L. Reading all the different opinions is one of the reasons I love posting topics such as this. : )Cynthia Chapman Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12408985785062180536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3224888611160910791.post-4748537411951562992011-10-12T10:18:48.631-07:002011-10-12T10:18:48.631-07:00Janet, that's a great thought! Bob Cratchit (T...Janet, that's a great thought! Bob Cratchit (TT's dad) does show pity which is sure to affect the reader. <br /><br />I agree, Bish--I couldn't think of other examples, either until I read E.R.'s comment about The Grinch. Thanks, E.R.! Great example.<br /><br />Adding in humor and crafting a character we love to hate... wonderful ingredients, Marcia.<br /><br />I have to agree, Lisa. <br /><br />What a fabulous example of a complex character, MG. A perfect example of a save the cat scene that redeems a character. And, as Marcia pointed out, humor helps.Cynthia Chapman Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12408985785062180536noreply@blogger.com